Rastafari Speaks!
Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2002( empresschantee )
Greetings in the name of His Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie I Jah Rastafari Holy Emmanuel I King Selassie I...John Marcus Mosiah Garvey I
Blessed my Lord and Empress!!!
Yes InI give thanx for the reasonings here on this message board. I give thanx for the bredren and sistren here and the knowledge and Wise-eye they share.
I have been observing this board for quite some time and I notice a lot of issues raised here. One thing I have noticed is Non-Africans trying to tell or "suggest" to Africans how they should think and all this "I'm not white, or black,(sometimes they throw in alien colors{purple, green}...lol I'm just human". Yeah that's easy for you to say. InI have never been thought of as human so we are proud to say we are Africans period. Don't come and try to REIGN on our parade. I ask you Non-Africans do you go to the Aryan Nation and tell them they shouldn't say "white power" or such??? Do you talk to people in your white neighborhoods, talk to your families and tell them the truth about the western mindest and they have been lied to as well??? DO your part..I am interested in knowing. Tell us to leave out some words and lets not think like that and lets do away with Black Supremacy. But you always compare Black Supremacy to White Supremacy and now using the reVERSED discrimination saying Africans are racist. I can only chuckle when I hear such a thing. In order for a person to be racist there are three main negative ingredients:
-(Power x Prejudice x Priviledge)=|-Racist|.
Sorry my dear Africans know they do not have all three. The most important is the priviledge. Ask any so called "big timer" African. They are still reminded of their color everytime. We do not have the privilegde to be racist no matter how much material wealth no matter how much prejudice.
Now if you take that same word and make it a positive vibration you will notice the suffix -ist
means to be a specialist in a specified art, science, or skill eg: biologist, pianist, anthropologist etc. So that means the noun(person) that's assoicated with the suffix dedicate there lives and achievements to their specialty, so if that means I dedicate my life to my RACE, then I am proud to be a racist.
With no apology!!! Every man/woman should be under their own vine and fig tree. This is not hate in any way, but the Western mindset cannot allow you to open up your minds and hearts. We also hear this chat about "let's move on and it was so long ago", why must InI do that?? So the same thing can happen again?? "And lets not talk about it". Why is it too much to swallow??? InI forgive but we will NEVER forget and your conscious will remind you of your deeds. That is the burden you MUST carry and we have our OWN as well. When InI chant Nyahbinghi InI chant downpression from white and black. We know there are some careless Africans and they will be addressed as well... EVERYTHING HAS ITS SEASON.
The InI RAStafari came to conquer with love and truth. So chant Rastafari chant !!!! Jah Rastafari!!!!! When AFRICA is set Free and all are FREE. And that goes for each race, tribe people and tongue.
There is more to be said and I won't hold the floor too long cuz I like to listen and get some spiritual food as well. So I leave with these seven words:
Emmanuel is love so let us love!!!
Holy Emmanuel I King Selassie I Jah Rastafari
Ethiopian Royal Sons and Dawtas
Princess Chantee
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( ras adam simeon )
Rastafari DOES speak, but many can't seem to hear his words or selectively edit them to fit their agenda.
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Empress Chantee explained that there is no such thing as a black racist by the argument that"..In order for a person to be racist there are three main negative ingredients:
(Power x Prejudice x Priviledge)=|-Racist|.
Sorry my dear Africans know they do not have all three. The most important is the priviledge. Ask any so called "big timer" African. They are still reminded of their color everytime. We do not have the privilegde to be racist no matter how much material wealth no matter how much prejudice"
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The quote above about "ask big timers" is very true. a disguised oprah winfrey was trying to shop on 5th ave. the attendand locked the door when he saw her coming. She thought it was closed until she saw white customers enter without problem. Actor Blair Underwood is often pulled over for driving a nice car in his own neighborhood.
about people implying Afrikan rascists on this board, I think it's a matter semantics.People are misuing that term because they feel rasicm is one set of folks hating on another set based on race period.
I think the issues that people are trying to bring up are BIGOTRY, PREJUDICE and Generalizing a whole set of people, and these sentiments are falling under the umbrella of RACISM because race is at the root of these arguments.
This debate isnt going anywhere. Like palestinians and jews, ethiopians and eritreans, etc.. the sides may never get that we are all kinspeople. not sure why people can't get MLK's message to judge individuals by their character and need to lump and stereotype whole races as being this or that. good and bad come in every color. idi amin, jeff dahmer, chairman mao, etc..
How about we agree to fight downpression and downpressors?
no one is "erasing/whitewashing history" or "taking over",just beacuse they suggest people shouldn't make sweeping generalizations and
biased statements. If you are a rastafarian you dont have to dig too deep to read the words of Haile Selassie on world citizenship. anyone of any color is free to Praise JAH. PEACE,
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( Ayinde )
I am in disagreement with what may be implied in parts of your contribution and I will explain what parts and why.
"This debate isnt going anywhere." (sic)
It may appear this way to some but as new people come to the board they express their views and engage the issue from their point of view. Some views are valid and some need proper responses. Once racism, gender discrimination and their offsprings, poverty (mentally and materially), crime and economic exploitation persist, then these discussions should be ongoing.
It is easy to say it isn't going anywhere because some are 'probably' looking at the repetition of the debate and fail to see the new posters who are now jumping into the debate. This Palestinian and Jews issue, the Ethiopia and Eritrea issues can be rationalized but there is no way all people would agree on anything because not all people can balance simultaneous ideas. People are at different stages of awareness so they will interpret to suit their awareness. That means the issues will have to be revisited time and time again as people grow in awareness.
No one tells a child the alphabet once and expects the child to get it. (I am not saying this is what you meant but I am defining my position.)
I have previously explained my position of generalizations. Generalizations are for simplifying discussions. Not all generalizations are bad. Whether the generalization is true or false should be of concern. A generalization is never about specifics or could it ever mean that every single one is the same. It speaks about the majority in the range of some people's experiences. It is only when people engage the discussion and relay their issues could they deal with specifics.
Often people are condemned for a generalization that is true and many times people make bad ones. So the distinction must be made.
The main point I strongly disagree with is the notion that people could put aside those issues and "fight downpression and downpressors" (sic)
The issue of racism and gender discrimination is at the root of the oppression. It is about attitudes and 'power' play. So if one tries to address oppressive issues and neglect examining the attitudes of ones who claim to be on your side in the fight, you might find that you are sleeping with the enemy. That is the reason most struggles do not resolve disputes. People do not take the time to examine the character of people they align themselves with and examining attitudes along racial and gender lines are about discerning character. It is impossible to discern the character of someone without discussing racial and gender issues.
Very often people come with the 'one love' talk and after a while one quickly finds they do not have a clue about love or respect. They are simply massaging egos for attention. So in keeping with your premise about judging people based on character, sensible ones will have to test awareness on race and gender issues to ensure we are not inadvertently promoting an oppressor.
There is no agreement until there is proper respect to all of our history and the emulation of the best human values. Simply saying we are one human race never solved anything. Getting to the root of the attitudes is about building on a more solid foundation
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Racism is a European invention and they openly promoted it and continue to this day so I find it funny that people want the discussions on the effect of it to be buried by some notion that it would get us nowhere. It is not as if proper African history is in the mainstream media and in schools to correct the misrepresentations. There is still a fight to bring these issues and discussions mainstream. So the debate must continue so new ones can test their awareness and learn from others who have learned.
All of this is about Rastafari. It is about each one teaching one and getting away from cosmetics and dealing with the hard nerve racking issues to bring about greater awareness.
I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU IMPLIED ALL THAT I DISAGREE WITH.
But I felt to add my views.
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( ras adam simeon )
Greetings,
wow. a very thoughtful post.
Thank you. i respect what you wrote and just wanted to clarify that when i typed the race debate is going nowhere. i meant it should still be on the table, in other words; it's not going anywhere(away) fast, is what i meant. not, its at a stale mate. but when i typed about middle east mess. i see do see a stale mate with the sides saying the same things over and over and not much concilliation(sp) to bend, so it reminded me of the race threads on this board sometimes. also by saying i think we should fight oppression + oppresors of all colors, that was not meant as a colorblind panacea that wipes away all racial problems.again i was trying to point out that there are wicked folks of every color out there doing dirty works not just whitey. you said we generalize for simplification reasons and i agree, but i think it can be very damning.
Anyway i appreciate your response. That is what i call intelligent + well written reasoning. respect to you. a simPrinter friendly version
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